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we've talked awesome about that but I could see in that situation how you know
there is a debate there and there's controversy but like you said the things
we're talking about now like just how to evaluate protein quality and protein
and actually measuring protein quantity like you can just look that up
nutrition data document biological values and numbers these are facts but you
know in this in this like fake news environment that we're living in people
don't even trust facts anymore like so if you present these facts to people who
are totally persuaded by the vegan argument then they find a way to just ignore
them right absolutely you know you and I as clinicians are concerned about this
especially you with
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buy those arguments you could come away I mean there's definitely research that
does correlate red meat intake with disease and you know you and I both know
what all the problems are with that research your experience in geriatrics and
your understanding of how frailty and sarcopenia are really can be really the
beginning of the end for people I mean there's a saying that in medicine you
break your hip died of pneumonia right which is I mean fortunately in this my
dad didn't fall into this category because he he exercises religiously he's got
a great diet he eats a paleo type of diet but he severed the quadriceps tendon
on both of his knees in a bad fall a couple years ago and Thanksgiving so he
was totally immobilized and straight knee straight leg braces with both legs in
the hospital and he developed pneumonia
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we were able to reverse that and without you know a lot of use of drugs and it
didn't it didn't escalate and he's fine and super healthy now but that was like
a very first-hand experience for me and seeing like this is how it can go with
someone and thank God he had significant muscle mass still that probably helps
her helped him survive episode absolutely sure you saw that over and over again
and that's why it's so personal because I I think you know when I take a step
back and I look at this social media sphere and I see all these people arguing
and talking about this protein and and you know this plant protein and I just
think to myself you know how many of these people have actually sat at the
bedside
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I got to see this firsthand like when you're immobilized what can that even
someone like him because he couldn't continue to move he developed pneumonia
unfortunately I you know with my training in of a dying person with their
family I mean I have done this over and over again watching these people waste
away and you know you can all be fine and argue in your 20s 30s 40s about this
side and that athlete but man I am Telling You the trajectory of Aging if you
go down this path is devastating and you don't come back we know Doug Patton
Jones if you'd look at his literature on the frailty and falls and bed rest the
the decline is very sharp with the loss of muscle mass and then you combine the
zealots saying have more plant protein which you know the aging population
isn't typically eating a lot as it is they're gonna have they're not gonna have
a chance their quality of the protein that they need to eat has to be high it
does
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